Daniel Dae Kim on his 'New Amsterdam' star turn and battling 'sad reality' of anti-Asian attacks
It's been a memorable year for Daniel Dae Kim.
The "Lost" and "Hawaii Five-0" star, an executive producer of ABC's "The Good Doctor," had scrubbed in at a different TV hospital, NBC's "New Amsterdam" (Tuesdays, 10 EDT/PDT), when COVID-19 hit New York last March.
Kim, who plays Cassian Shin, a talented surgeon who sets his own rules, had finished shooting his introductory episode – coincidentally centered on a fictional flu pandemic – when production was shut down. (That episode never aired.)
Flying home to his wife, Mia, and two sons in Hawaii, Kim felt the first symptoms of COVID-19, which he discussed while recovering in a moving video posted to his Instagram account that offered details about the illness at a time when the public knew little.
As he discussed his treatment and recovery in March 2020, Kim warned of rising anti-Asian bigotry and violence, inflamed by irresponsible references to the coronavirus' origins in China. He continues to speak out, testifying before a Congressional committee in September and joining fellow actor Daniel Wu in offering a $25,000 reward in connection with the assault of an elderly man in Oakland's Chinatown in January.
USA TODAY spoke to Kim two weeks before the March 16 shooting deaths of eight people – including six Asian women – at three Atlanta-area spas. He again testified before Congress March 18 about discrimination and violence against Asian Americans.
After the arrest of the suspected gunman in the spa shootings, Kim tweeted that those who "act with hate in your heart, you are part of the problem. And to those with the power to help and yet sit idly by, your silence is complicity. #StopAsianHate."
Kim, 52, spoke to USA TODAY from Toronto, where he was filming National Geographic's "The Hot Zone: Anthrax" – another infectious disease story – and just before the release of "Raya and the Last Dragon," a Disney animated movie released in which he voices the father of the title character. Later this year, he stars in the Netflix space thriller "Stowaway."
Kim, who moved to the U.S. from South Korea as a baby, discussed acting, activism, anti-Asian violence and his belief that Asian representation on screen is improving. (Edited and condensed for clarity)
Question: After guest-starring as a surgeon on “The Good Doctor,” what is the appeal of playing another one on “New Amsterdam?”
Daniel Dae Kim: The character written for me was one I've never played before. He had a lot of confidence, a lot of swagger, but that was not used in a judgmental way against him. He was allowed to be a dashing leading man, a foil to (Ryan Eggold's Dr. Max Goodwin). I love the fact that they thought of him as a romantic interest, which hasn't happened very often in my career. He has a sense of humor, he's comfortable in his own skin.
Q: Is that the kind of role that has been available to white actors but not those of Asian-American and other backgrounds?
Kim: It's pretty obvious that it's been afforded to white actors, because we've had so many characters like that. (As for) Asian actors, I haven't seen it.
Q: With Dr. Jackson Han on "The Good Doctor" and now Dr. Shin, are you creating a surgical specialty?
Kim: My dad (was) a doctor. When I was a kid, there was an expectation I would become a doctor. So maybe it's a subconscious way of pleasing my dad. I wouldn't even say subconscious; I think it's conscious. I like the idea that at least I can play a doctor on TV.
Q: What was the message of this month's Season 3 premiere, which showed the hospital mirroring the real world's efforts to emerge from the worst of COVID-19?
Kim: I like that the show doesn't shy away from the pandemic. One of the things it does so well is show the toll that being a front-line provider takes. It humanizes the pandemic a little bit, and it also can be educational.
Q: Why did you speak publicly about your COVID-19 diagnosis in the pandemic's early days?
Kim: There was such a lack of information and people had a lot of misperceptions about what happened if you contracted the virus. People thought it was a death sentence, because they were hearing about the number of casualties overseas. I felt it might be helpful for people to see someone actually experience the virus. I thought it might help calm some people and at the same time help alarm others, that the virus is real and this is how one person is coping with it.
Q: When you spoke about COVID-19 last March, why did you discuss the rise in incidents of bigotry and violence against people of Asian descent?
Kim: At the time, those of us in the Asian community knew those attacks were already happening. Na?vely, I thought everyone knew and I was commenting on the fact that this is now a sad reality and byproduct of this pandemic and to be mindful and kind to one another. Little did I know at the time that it would receive little to no attention and a year later we'd be in the same place, (after) 3,000 attacks and incidents.
Q: Is the problem of anti-Asian violence worse now than when the pandemic started?
Kim: Yes. There are more (incidents) now than there were last year. Over the course of a year where certain politicians were labeling this "Kung Flu" and "the China virus," it started to have a seeping-in effect. I'm sure it emboldened some people who otherwise might not have blamed people who have nothing to do with the virus and, unprovoked, attacked them.
Q: Do you blame former President Donald Trump?
Kim: There's no question that his rhetoric, in my mind, had an effect, but there are a number of politicians who followed in those footsteps. To blame one person doesn't do justice to the situation. It's really about the disrespect that was shown to an entire group of Americans. This is what I think is most important in all of this: You might have your problems with the Chinese government and you might even have problems with certain Chinese people, but the people being attacked are Americans in America who often have no connection to China, and especially the Chinese government. And most times aren't even Chinese. (People) are attacking fellow Americans, which is heartbreaking.
Q: As awareness is raised, what else must be done?
Kim: We need to be able to contact our local (district attorneys) and the Department of Justice to discuss how we can deter (these crimes) and how we can prosecute them properly. There's a lot we can do to foster understanding among communities. There are many community groups that have been created out of the ashes of this, like Compassion in Oakland, where they're escorting Asian-American elders from place to place so that they feel safe.
Q: What did you find appealing about "Raya and the Last Dragon," which follows a new Disney princess in a fantasy realm inspired by Southeast Asian cultures?
Kim: "Raya" is the embodiment of the themes I've been talking about in this conversation. It's about trust and unity, bringing people together as opposed to focusing on each other's differences. My character (Chief Benja) plays a leader of a land that has become factionalized. His mission is to bring unity to all of the lands. He asks: How can we come together if no one is willing to take the first step? It's an allegory that parallels our times. It's almost eerie how much it speaks to today even though this film was conceived years ago.
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Q: What was it like to be in a cast that includes Kelly Marie Tran, Awkwafina and Sandra Oh?
Kim: It felt like this should have happened a long time ago. These are actors that I've known and admired and liked personally. (It) felt like getting together with a bunch of friends and doing a project that just so happens to be for the biggest animation studio in the world. It's a sign of the times that now we get to be included in part of that (Disney) universe along with "Mulan," "Moana" and "Cinderella."
Q: Do you think representation of Asians and Asian Americans in TV and movies is getting better?
Kim: I do. I won't deny (problems) exist, but there's never been a better time to be an Asian American working in entertainment than right now, because we are asking questions, we are seeing change. We are able to play roles we've never played before. If you look at the role I got to play in "New Amsterdam," I've never gotten to do that. I've worked 31 years in this industry and "The Hot Zone" is the first time I've ever been No. 1 on a call sheet. These are positive signs of change.
Q: How important was it to detail history in last year's PBS documentary "Asian Americans"?
Kim: Though there are many positive things to talk about, there's so little awareness. Somehow, Asian Americans are perpetually thought of as foreigners, that we're not part of the fabric of this country. That's why a documentary like "Asian Americans" is so important. It shows you indisputable facts and history where we have been – and are – American and how we've contributed to where we are today in this country.
Q: I couldn’t let you go without asking about “Lost,” in which you played one of the survivors of a mysterious island plane crash. What are you most proud of about that groundbreaking series?
Kim: If you were to go back and watch, especially Season 1, it stands the test of time. It doesn't feel dated. It's just as compelling now as it was then. Not many TV shows can say that.
This article originally appeared on USA TODAY: Daniel Dae Kim on 'New Amsterdam,' battling anti-Asian violence
