âDeadpool & Wolverineâ Star Dafne Keen Breaks Down Her Emotional Reunion With Hugh Jackman
[This story does not contain major spoilers for Deadpool & Wolverine. But it does contain spoilers for The Acolyte.]
Twenty-four hours after Dafne Keen performed the tragic demise of her Star Wars: The Acolyte Jedi, she was reviving her signature role from Logan in Deadpool & Wolverine.
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At age 11, Keen played Laura/X-23, the cloned daughter of Hugh Jackmanâs Logan/Wolverine, in James Mangoldâs revered superhero neo-Western. On account of the characterâs immediate popularity, there was talk of a potential X-23 spinoff, but she was soon lost in the shuffle of the Disney-Fox merger that began nine months after Loganâs March 2017 release. The Oscar-nominated film also served as Hugh Jackmanâs farewell to his defining role, and the absence of Keenâs âanchor beingâ only lessened her chances of continuing on in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. However, the merger eventually gave way to the MCUâs Multiverse Saga, allowing for just about any combination of Marvel characters to exist in the same frame.
Years later, in September 2022, Jackman and Ryan Reynolds announced that the former would reprise the role of Wolverine in Shawn Levyâs Deadpool & Wolverine, and the involvement of Keenâs character became all but inevitable. Jackman may not be portraying the same version of Logan that met a tearful end in his eponymously titled film, but the connection between mutant father and daughter still transcends universes.
âShawn [Levy] told me this lovely story about him reading this scene where Deadpool was telling Wolverine about Xâ23, and thinking, âMaybe we should just have X-23,ââ Keen tells The Hollywood Reporter. âSheâs a big emotional motor for Wolverine, and Wolverine is her entire emotional motor.â
Naturally, Keen has had Mangold in mind since the early days of her Marvel return. After all, he gave her the biggest break of her young career, beating out a whoâs who of child actors in the 10- to- 12-year-old range at the time. The two then addressed the subject at Star Wars Celebration in April 2023, as Keen was there to promote The Acolyte, while Mangold was on hand to talk Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny and his upcoming Star Wars film, Dawn of the Jedi.
âJim and I saw each other at Star Wars Celebration, and ⌠he was like, âI heard youâre in Deadpool.â So we spoke about it, but we chat every so often. Heâs good,â Keen shares. âBut I hope Jim likes Deadpool & Wolverine. I would hate it if he didnât like it. I look up to him very much creatively.â
Deadpool & Wolverine winds up being a heartfelt tribute to the bygone eras of Marvel cinema, especially 20th Century Foxâs Marvel universe. Thus, the filmâs multiverse exploits are impossible to see coming.
âI had a FaceTime with Shawn a week after I was cast, and he was like, âI canât tell you who they are yet, but all of your scenes are with iconic Hollywood actors,ââ Keen says. âI was filming [Whistle] in Toronto, and then they sent me back [to Deadpool]. I took a flight on Thursday and landed [in London] on Friday afternoon, and I immediately drove straight, with suitcase, to set. I then went to Ryanâs trailer, and we all did a read-through and watched the first 15 minutes of the film. I was just completely delirious and jet lagged in a room with Hollywoodâs brightest ⌠So it was the most surreal moment of my life, and I was just so terrified. I couldnât believe my life, and I just sat next to Hugh and was like, âPlease protect me. This is insane.â But everyone was hilarious and lovely and so normal. It was amazing.â
Below, during a recent conversation with THR, Keen also discusses how surprised she was to hear that Disneyâs marketing team was revealing her confidential role a week ahead of release. Then she offers her thoughts on Oshaâs âback-stabbyâ choice in The Acolyteâs season finale.
Well, youâve been keeping a lot of secrets the past year and a half or so.
I have!
What was the timeline of The Acolyte versus Deadpool & Wolverine?
They were very back to back. Spoiler alert, my Acolyte character dies in [episode five], so I shot my death and was immediately in [Deadpool & Wolverine] fittings the day after my death scene. I was still shooting other stuff [for The Acolyte], but while I was shooting, I was doing fittings and stuff for Deadpool & Wolverine. So I got the call for Deadpool while we were shooting the second or third episode of the show, and when we wrapped, I immediately went into stunt training with them. I then did two scenes before the SAG-AFTRA strike happened, and then I came back in December.
Who was the first person to raise the subject of Lauraâs return?
I am not really sure, but Iâve spoken to Shawn [Levy] about this. I think it was a question of how they were going to approach telling Wolverineâs story after Logan without ruining the legacy Logan had left. Shawn told me this lovely story about him reading this scene where Deadpool was telling Wolverine about Xâ23, and thinking, âMaybe we should just have X-23.â To me, sheâs a big emotional motor for Wolverine, and Wolverine is her entire emotional motor. So the thought process behind it is that she brings a lot of humanity and empathy to his character, and after they all thought of it together, I was very, very lucky to get that phone call.
Manny Jacinto recently told me about the time you referred to him as a âstunt godâ at Star Wars Celebration, which he had to walk back.
I did say that!
Did you ever get close to revealing your own classified information?
Every time they asked me, âWhere is your character going this season?â it was always hard to not say how excited I was about Jeckiâs death scene. I always find that the characters who get to epically die are the coolest. I like when a character goes out like a badass, and my character went out like a badass. I got to do a sick fight with double sabers, and she really held her own before dying in a really epic, sudden, tragic way. So I really wanted to tell everyone about that, and I did almost reveal it a bunch of times. But, in my defense, the âstunt godâ thing was prompted by Charlie Barnett. I will not take the blame for that. That was all Charlie, and I slipped. So I apologized, but that was Charlie Barnettâs fault.
You were also keeping the Deadpool & Wolverine secret while sitting next to Charlie and Manny during Acolyte press, and people kept asking you about the movie. Did Charlie and Manny figure out that you were in it?
They knew I was back. I told Charlie while we were filming; Charlie is one of my closest friends in real life. And itâs all Disney, so everyone on [The Acolyte] knew that I was in it. If you look closely at the interviews, thereâs one interview that Charlie sent to me where itâs so obvious that [the reporter] knew, and the three of us were so awkward. They were like, âWhat are you doing for [the movie]?â And I was like, âIâm going to go watch it.â And they were like, âWe can all go watch it together!â But I had a great time lying about it, and it was a long time coming. Every time I did press for the last year and a half, I was asked about Deadpool & Wolverine, so itâs nice to finally talk about it.
At the Acolyte junket, I brought up the fact that Leslye Headland wanted to see Laura with a lightsaber, and then I asked you if you were amazed that your 11-year-old self is still paying dividends all these years later. And you replied, âYeah, she keeps getting me roles.â So Deadpool & Wolverine mustâve been the reason why you used the plural form of role?
Yes, it was me making a little secret joke there that youâd get months later. But, also, very luckily, I was a part of this movie [Logan] that people are still talking about seven years later. When I go into audition rooms, I still get asked about what it was like to work with Jim [Mangold] and Hugh [Jackman] and Patrick [Stewart]. That set was such a school. I got to act with the incredible Patrick Stewart, the incomparable Hugh Jackman, and while I barely had scenes with these other actors, we had an incredible cast with people like Stephen Merchant, Richard E. Grant and Boyd Holbrook. So I learned so much on that set, and itâs so incredible that people are still talking about it. I owe my entire career to that job, from a projection point to also a creative and growth point. The fact that I got my first big job with that talented a cast really shaped me as an actor.
Of course, you donât need anyoneâs permission, but did you still email Jim Mangold and give him a heads up so that he didnât hear about your return through the grapevine?
Jim and I saw each other at Star Wars Celebration, and he mentioned it to me. He was like, âI heard youâre in Deadpool.â And I was like, âYeah.â So we spoke about it, but we chat every so often. Heâs good. He obviously had his amazing trailer [for A Complete Unknown] come out yesterday. Iâm really excited about it. Iâm actually going to watch it. Thatâs not me making up another line to distract from me being in it. (Laughs.) But I hope Jim likes Deadpool & Wolverine. I would hate it if he didnât like it. I look up to him very much creatively.
For what itâs worth, I was very pleased with how well the movie honors Logan. Were you expecting Disneyâs marketing team to reveal Laura ahead of release?
No, it was huge. I was literally doing flat viewings, and I got a text from Shawn while they were in Rio. Both our signals were really bad, so we kept sending really jagged messages to each other. He was like, âDafne, call me when youâre free.â And I was like, âIâm free now.â And then he was like, âDafne, call me when youâre free.â And I was like, âI just texted you.â And then he was like, âDafne, call me when youâre free.â So I was freaking out, and I actually sent him a screenshot of all the messages. I was like, âWhat is going on, Shawn? Please ring me right now.â And then he rang me and was like, âIâm in Rio, and the signal is really bad. I just wanted to tell you before anyone else tells you that weâre revealing you tomorrow.â And I was like, âWhat!?â So we spoke about it, and we were both very excited for it, but I couldnât believe it. I thought I was going to be a secret. There were talks of me going to the premiere and pretending to be Hughâs plus-one, which wouldâve been hilarious. Everyone wouldâve been like, âWhat the fuck is this kid doing here? Obviously, youâre in the film.â
As we see in the trailer, Laura has a very dramatic scene with Wolverine near a campfire, and she concludes by saying, âYou were always the wrong guy â till you werenât.â Was it still emotional for the two of you even though you and your characters both knew that it technically wasnât the same Logan?
Yeah, that was a really fun thing for me to play. Imagine losing your only father figure in life, only to reunite with your father almost 10 years later, but he doesnât know that you are his daughter and he doesnât have that bond with you in return. So itâs heartbreaking and beautiful that they are almost father and daughter in every universe. As soon as they meet each other, he feels comfortable enough to have that conversation with her. I donât think he wouldâve had that conversation with anyone else, and she wouldnât have had that conversation with anyone else, either. So it was a really lovely thing to play, because, even if he doesnât know her, he does know her. Theyâre one and the same. So it was a really emotional day for me and Hugh. We were at this campfire, and weâd done scenes at a campfire in Logan. We were in a forest, and weâd done a bunch of forest scenes in Logan. The last time weâd acted together was his death scene [in Logan], I think, and now we were back doing this. It was a night shoot, and youâre already delirious because itâs 3:00 a.m., but it was still a very emotional day.
You found yourself on a couple sets with a very unexpected group of people. We canât say their names yet, but did you hear ahead of time who youâd be sharing scenes with? Or was it top secret till the day?
I had a FaceTime with Shawn a week after I was cast, and he was like, âI canât tell you who they are yet, but all of your scenes are with iconic Hollywood actors.â And I was like, âOK, whatever.â (Laughs.) So I donât think anyone told me. And then, a few weeks before we shot, I went into production and I saw the costume designs with them. And I was like, âI wonder if itâs them.â I then had a fitting right after one of the cameos, and I was like, âAre my scenes with him?â They werenât; it was just another random, but crazy, cameo.
I shot a horror film [Whistle] during the strikes; it had an [interim agreement]. But Deadpool obviously had preference because Iâd already been doing it before [Whistle]. So I was filming that in Toronto, and then they sent me back [to Deadpool]. I took a flight on Thursday and landed [in London] on Friday afternoon, and I immediately drove straight, with suitcase, to set. I then went to Ryanâs trailer, and we all did a read-through and watched the first 15 minutes of the film. I was just completely delirious and jet lagged in a room with Hollywoodâs brightest doing a read-through. So it was the most surreal moment of my life, and I was just so terrified. I couldnât believe my life, and I just sat next to Hugh and was like, âPlease protect me. This is insane.â But everyone was hilarious and lovely and so normal. It was amazing.
When was your first proper reunion with Hugh?
The first reunion we had was after I had the costume fitting where I met the random cameo. I was halfway through the fitting and they were like, âHugh is onstage next door and he really wants to see you. Can you just rush out?â I was trying on jeans, so I had tags hanging off me, but I was like, âYeah, sure!â I then ran over while they were approving a set, and I just walked in and Hugh was like, âOh my God, itâs you!â And then we hugged, and it was really crazy because we hadnât seen each other in ages. He was like, âOh my God, youâre so tall.â And I was like, âWell, you havenât seen me since I was 12.â (Laughs.) So we hugged, but it was very quick because we were both being rushed.
And then, as I was leaving, my car got stopped. They were like, âShawn, Ryan and Hugh would love for you to read a scene with them.â And I was like, âRight now?â So we went and read the scene, and it was really fun and nice. The picture that Hugh posted of us was taken in that little room. And then our first scene together was not the campfire scene. That was the second scene we shot. The first scene we shot was a very random one that Hugh and I barely have dialogue in, so we just got to catch up off camera, which was really sweet.
Did they have to make new glasses, or did you rummage through your closet to find your box of Logan stuff?
(Laughs.) They made me new ones. I think we tried a model of the old ones, but they looked ridiculously small on my face. Everyone was like, âYeah, thatâs silly. Weâre not doing that.â But we did make new glasses, and that was my favorite bit of the costume. I also have a belt that has an X on it, which I really liked.
Lauraâs ground fighting and wire work had a very specific look back in the day, and Deadpool & Wolverine managed to have your adult self move in the way you once moved as a kid. Was re-creating your Logan movement and style actually a priority from the start?
Yeah, one of the first things that happened was stunt training, and they did a physical assessment to see how in shape I was. Luckily, Iâd just come off of Star Wars, so I was nimble. And the second conversation we had was like, âDo you want to show us what you did? This is kind of what we wanted to do, but this is your character. Youâve played her before. Teach us how she moves and how she would do these things.â I also had the most amazing double, Nadia [Hansell], and we basically figured out how she would be now.
So it was very lovely, and we gave a few nods to Logan. A lot of her physicality comes from the sound she makes when sheâs doing it, and because she has claws in her feet, she has much more kicking and footwork than Wolverine does. Thereâs a little nod to Loganâs X-24 fight when sheâs on [Spoilerâs] back and is stabbing him. That was similar to X-24 and X-23âs fight at the farmhouse. So there were a lot of little nods to Logan, and yesterday, I actually looked through videos of stunt training for Logan and Deadpool. So it was really sweet to see how insanely different I looked but how similar the fights were.
When you see footage of yourself from Logan, what tends to cross your mind?
Weirdly, I was just talking to another child actor friend of mine about this. I find it really hard to watch work from the last five years of my life, whereas when I watch Logan, I can just watch it like a home video. I had watched Logan at the premieres, and then I watched little clips of it here and there, but then I had to rewatch the film for Deadpool. So it was crazy to actually watch it and understand it as a grown-up. But I think itâs a very universal child actor thing where all I see is memories when I watch my work as a kid. Iâll watch a scene and Iâll be like, âOh my God, that was the day that this happened,â and, âOh my God, Hugh did that on set that day.â Then Iâll watch another scene and Iâll be like, âOh yeah, my mum was with me on set that day,â or, âThat was my dadâs day.â So itâs very weird when I watch it now, and itâs like Iâm watching a little journal, except itâs a movie that I made. That would never happen to me now [when I watch work from the last five years].
As for Jecki, she had a connection of sorts with Osha (Amandla Stenberg), so how do you think she would feel if she saw the end of the season where Osha joins forces with her executioner?
I think sheâd feel a little bit hurt. Itâs a bit back-stabby of Osha. I donât love that from her, but I do think Jecki would understand because she was a very compassionate person. Thereâs a very lovely scene where you can see that Osha does care about Jecki. Sheâs with Stranger, and she was like, âYou killed Yorde.â And he was like, âA man who didnât hesitate to turn you in for a crime you didnât commit.â And then she went, âYou killed Jecki!â And he was like, âThat was one-sided.â So I think she would understand, but from her point of view as a Jedi, sheâd also be like, âHeâs being manipulative. Heâs from the Dark Side.â So sheâd be compassionate, but sheâd also be like, âWhat the fuck? Get away from Osha.â
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