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Kendrick Lamar Says ‘Not Like Us’ Represents Who He Is: ‘This Man Has Morals’

Jon Blistein
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Kendrick Lamar performing at Bonnaroo 2023. - Credit: Gary Miller/WireImage
Kendrick Lamar performing at Bonnaroo 2023. - Credit: Gary Miller/WireImage

Kendrick Lamar said a whole lot about “Not Like Us” and the type of person it’s about, without saying too much at all, in a new interview with SZA for Harper’s Bazaar.

During the conversation, SZA asked Lamar what “Not Like Us” — his scathing, smash Drake diss — “means” to him. Lamar reportedly laughed and replied, “Not like us? Not like us is the energy of who I am, the type of man I represent.”

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Asked to describe that man, Lamar continued: “This man has morals, he has values, he believes in something, he stands on something. He’s not pandering. He’s a man who can recognize his mistakes and not be afraid to share the mistakes and can dig deep down into fear-based ideologies or experiences to be able to express them without feeling like he’s less of a man.”

Tying a neat, shady bow on the brief discussion of one of the year’s biggest songs, Lamar dismissed the notion that the diss track came from a place of anger. “I don’t believe I’m an angry person,” he said. “But I do believe in love and war, and I believe they both need to exist. And my awareness of that allows me to react to things but not identify with them as who I am.”

Elsewhere in the interview, SZA spoke about her own creative process and how she tries to express herself with the right amount of vulnerability, without going overboard. She mentioned writing a song last summer, for instance, that was “too honest,” and she “couldn’t put it out.”

“I just be telling on myself so crazy and I can’t stop,” she continued. “It’s like I have to tell on myself so I’m not bored. Because otherwise, I’m just like, what’s the point?”

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SZA went on to say that sometimes when she’s in the studio it “hurts too much,” which is why she occasionally pretends to be other artists — like Lamar, Frank Ocean, or Future. “It’s easier to be me through their eyes than it is to sit with some of the really harsh things that I say about myself to myself,” she said. “I guess I want to say nicer things about myself. So I’m like, I guess I shouldn’t look through my eyes. I should look through somebody else’s.”

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