'I Don't Need The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame'

Rock group Kiss has a day on the town in New York City. Peter Criss, Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley, Ace Frehley. (Photo By: Richard Corkery/NY Daily News via Getty Images) (Photo: )
Rock group Kiss has a day on the town in New York City. Peter Criss, Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley, Ace Frehley. (Photo By: Richard Corkery/NY Daily News via Getty Images) (Photo: )

When this year's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony airs on HBO Saturday night, Rush, Heart, Public Enemy, Donna Summer and Randy Newman, among others, will be seen joining those already enshrined in the Cleveland museum. But one group that won't be represented, yet again, is the self-proclaimed "hottest band in the world," KISS.

Longtime fans can't believe the group that taught America how to rock and roll all night and party every day still hasn't made the cut. The Huffington Post asked lead singer Paul Stanley if there's hope of a reprieve.

"Well, it depends on who lives longer, us or Jann Wenner," Stanley said, referring to the Rolling Stone editor-in-chief who co-founded the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame back in the mid-1980s.

Fans have a tendency to blame Wenner for the KISS snub. (One brave loyalist even confronted Wenner on the street to demand answers.) But the real obstacle may be journalist Dave Marsh, who plays a key role in the selection process and once told MTV, "Kiss is not a great band, Kiss was never a great band, Kiss never will be a great band, and I have done my share to keep them off the ballot."

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Stanley, who has been making the media rounds to publicize the opening of a new branch of his Rock & Brews restaurant chain, questioned the legitimacy of the hall itself.

"Look, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is marketing," he said. "You've got a bunch of faceless people in a back room who trademark a name that sounds very official. Well, if you had thought of it first, you would have been the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame."

Stanley, who turned 61 in January and has been playing with KISS for 40 years, also complained that artists who aren't generally considered rock 'n' rollers keep getting inducted, even as his group keeps getting overlooked.

"I am one of the biggest Laura Nyro fans. I still listen to that stuff incessantly. Laura Nyro does not belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Songwriter Hall of Fame? Absolutely," he said.

Some rock purists dismiss KISS as a "comic book rock band," to quote Steven Tyler, but their kid-friendly costumes and easy-to-learn riffs have arguably enhanced their influence over ensuing generations of musicians. Garth Brooks, Lenny Kravitz and Mike McCready of Pearl Jam have all expressed their indebtedness to the band.

"It's absurd for anybody to look around and hear the acts and artists who cite us as an inspiration, and then tell me that we're not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame," Stanley said.

Not that he cares! "I'm not here to make converts, and I think that the people who choose not to see things, I'm not missing their adoration."

If anything, Stanley said, he'd like to see KISS recognized for the sake of the fans. "I would certainly accept on their behalf because it seems to be a major sore spot for them," he said. "But I don't need the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame."

The third Rock & Brews restaurant opened on the Pacific Coast Highway in Los Angeles on May 8. According to a press release, Stanley and KISS co-founder Gene Simmons, who are partners in the franchise, plan to open "as many as 100 Rock & Brews restaurants over the next five years."

"I'm a real foodie," said Stanley, adding that he admires the chefs Thomas Keller and Julian Serrano. (KISS has deep roots in Brooklyn, but Stanley, who grew up in New York, admitted he hasn't yet sampled the borough's now-celebrated fare.)

It's tempting to assume that Stanley handles the food and Simmons, who once vied for the approval of Donald Trump on "Celebrity Apprentice," is the marketing whiz, but Stanley said that's not the case.

"I would say if somebody said to the two of us, 'You guys should make a cake,' Gene would tell me that it's gotta be six feet tall and what color it should be, and I'd say, 'Yeah, but there's gotta be a cake underneath it.' But we work great together," Stanley said. "Our track record together is far better than on our own."

The Rock & Brews restaurants promise to give rock fans a place to bring their kids and eat well. Asked if he and Simmons found the bring-the-whole-family angle awkward after four decades of selling themselves as skirt-chasing rock gods, Stanley said, "I am a rock god still, but I think the biggest change is what goes on when I'm not on stage."

Today, Stanley lives in Los Angeles with his wife and their three youngest children. Their oldest, a son, studies music at New York University.

"I look back with tremendous, tremendous fondness and great memories on a life of debauchery, but I sure as hell would find it sad to still be there," Stanley said. "There's nothing more pathetic than seeing the guy in the club who you think is a little past being there."

Kings of the Nighttime World

Gene Simmons of Kiss, practicing his moves while Paul Stanley gets ready, before performing  at Alex Cooley's Electric Ballroom. (Photo by Tom Hill/WireImage)
Gene Simmons of Kiss, practicing his moves while Paul Stanley gets ready, before performing at Alex Cooley's Electric Ballroom. (Photo by Tom Hill/WireImage)

Dressed to Kill

Gene Simmons, Peter Criss, Paul Stanley and Ace Frehley. (Photo by Tom Hill/WireImage)
Gene Simmons, Peter Criss, Paul Stanley and Ace Frehley. (Photo by Tom Hill/WireImage)

The Immigrant

Simmons was born Chaim Witz in Haifa, Israel, on August 25, 1949. He was eight years old and spoke no English when he moved with his mother to Jackson Heights, Queens. (Photo by Darlene Hammond/Getty Images)
Simmons was born Chaim Witz in Haifa, Israel, on August 25, 1949. He was eight years old and spoke no English when he moved with his mother to Jackson Heights, Queens. (Photo by Darlene Hammond/Getty Images)

Alive!

Kiss performs at Alex Cooley's Electric Ballroom, July 18, 1974. (Photo by Tom Hill/WireImage)
Kiss performs at Alex Cooley's Electric Ballroom, July 18, 1974. (Photo by Tom Hill/WireImage)

God of Thunder

Simmons blows fire onstage at Georgia Tech, December 1, 1974. (Photo by Tom Hill/WireImage)
Simmons blows fire onstage at Georgia Tech, December 1, 1974. (Photo by Tom Hill/WireImage)

Spaceman

Guitarist Ace "Spaceman" Frehley on May 31, 1974, in Los Angeles. (Photo by Richard Creamer/Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
Guitarist Ace "Spaceman" Frehley on May 31, 1974, in Los Angeles. (Photo by Richard Creamer/Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)

Demon Gene

Simmons plays bass during a show at the Civic Auditorium in Long Beach, CA, on May 31, 1974. (Photo by Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
Simmons plays bass during a show at the Civic Auditorium in Long Beach, CA, on May 31, 1974. (Photo by Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)

Core Members

Paul "Star Child" Stanley and Simmons co-founded the band in January 1973 and remain members today. (Photo by Richard Creamer/Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
Paul "Star Child" Stanley and Simmons co-founded the band in January 1973 and remain members today. (Photo by Richard Creamer/Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)

Rock & Roll All Night!

Another shot from the Civic Auditorium show on May 31, 1974. (Photo by Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
Another shot from the Civic Auditorium show on May 31, 1974. (Photo by Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)

Makeup Game

Stanley and drummer Peter Criss pose with the Cadillac High School football team during the 'Day in the Life of a Town' in Cadillac, Michigan on October 9, 1975. (Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)
Stanley and drummer Peter Criss pose with the Cadillac High School football team during the 'Day in the Life of a Town' in Cadillac, Michigan on October 9, 1975. (Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)

Strutter

(Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)
(Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)

Womp Womp

(Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)
(Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)

Firehouse

(Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)
(Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)

The Tomorrow Show

The band sits with Tom Snyder for what would turn out to be an infamous episode of NBC's "The Tomorrow Show." (It aired  October 31, 1979.) (Photo by NBC/NBCU Photo Bank.)
The band sits with Tom Snyder for what would turn out to be an infamous episode of NBC's "The Tomorrow Show." (It aired October 31, 1979.) (Photo by NBC/NBCU Photo Bank.)

Gold Standard

KISS and their gold records at the Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale, New York, December 31, 1975. (Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)
KISS and their gold records at the Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale, New York, December 31, 1975. (Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)

Armor All

Simmons was known for his ... unique look. (Photo by Richard E. Aaron/Redferns)
Simmons was known for his ... unique look. (Photo by Richard E. Aaron/Redferns)

C'Mon and Love Me!

Stanley always seemed like the saner frontman. (Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)
Stanley always seemed like the saner frontman. (Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)

Detroit Rock City

Frehley, who was known for his infectious hyena laugh, attends to his make-up backstage at Cobo Hall in Detroit during the concert recording of Alive! on May 16, 1975. (Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)
Frehley, who was known for his infectious hyena laugh, attends to his make-up backstage at Cobo Hall in Detroit during the concert recording of Alive! on May 16, 1975. (Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)

Nothin' To Lose

Simmons breathing more fire at the Calderone Theater, New York, August 24, 1975. (Photo by Redferns/Getty Images)
Simmons breathing more fire at the Calderone Theater, New York, August 24, 1975. (Photo by Redferns/Getty Images)

Love 'Em and Leave 'Em

Stanley pretends to choke Peter Criss during the Alive! sessions. Criss would later leave the band and complain of being mistreated by Stanley and Simmons. (Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)
Stanley pretends to choke Peter Criss during the Alive! sessions. Criss would later leave the band and complain of being mistreated by Stanley and Simmons. (Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)

Ace Frehley

Frehley drinking from a bottle of Mateus Rose during the same session. Frehley later left the band as well and later complained that Simmons and Stanley criticized him for drinking and drugging while tolerating the same behavior in others. (Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)
Frehley drinking from a bottle of Mateus Rose during the same session. Frehley later left the band as well and later complained that Simmons and Stanley criticized him for drinking and drugging while tolerating the same behavior in others. (Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)

The Hottest Band in the World!

(Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)
(Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)

Platform Player

(Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)
(Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)

Black Diamond

Peter Criss poses in a vintage sports car. (Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)
Peter Criss poses in a vintage sports car. (Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns)

Solo Shot

(Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns/Getty Images)
(Photo by Fin Costello/Redferns/Getty Images)

Horse Play

Stanley befriends a carriage horse near Central Park in New York City.  (Photo by Richard Corkery/NY Daily News Archive via Getty Images)
Stanley befriends a carriage horse near Central Park in New York City. (Photo by Richard Corkery/NY Daily News Archive via Getty Images)

Back in the New York Groove

(Photo By: Richard Corkery/NY Daily News via Getty Images)
(Photo By: Richard Corkery/NY Daily News via Getty Images)

London Calling

KISS in London, May 10, 1976. (Photo by Peter Cade/Central Press/Getty Images)
KISS in London, May 10, 1976. (Photo by Peter Cade/Central Press/Getty Images)

Uh! All Night

Kiss in Copenhagen, Denmark, May 29, 1976. (Photo by Jan Persson/Redferns)
Kiss in Copenhagen, Denmark, May 29, 1976. (Photo by Jan Persson/Redferns)

Stage Fright

Live in Amsterdam, May 23, 1976. (Photo by Gijsbert Hanekroot/Redferns)
Live in Amsterdam, May 23, 1976. (Photo by Gijsbert Hanekroot/Redferns)

Blood Sport

(Photo by NBC NewsWire/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
(Photo by NBC NewsWire/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)

Shock Me

(Photo by Robert Knight Archive/Redferns)
(Photo by Robert Knight Archive/Redferns)

I'm a Legend Tonight

Stanley arranging his hair, New York, February 1977. (Photo by Michael Putland/Getty Images)
Stanley arranging his hair, New York, February 1977. (Photo by Michael Putland/Getty Images)

Group Shot

Live at the Cow Palace in Daly City, California, December 16, 1979. (Photo by Larry Hulst/Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
Live at the Cow Palace in Daly City, California, December 16, 1979. (Photo by Larry Hulst/Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)

Tongue in Cheek (Or Not)

Backstage in New York, February 1977. (Photo by Michael Putland/Getty Images)
Backstage in New York, February 1977. (Photo by Michael Putland/Getty Images)

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