Q4 2023 Consumer Portfolio Services Inc Earnings Call

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Participants

Charles Bradley; Board Member; Consumer Portfolio Services Inc

Mike Lavin; President & Chief Operating Officer; Consumer Portfolio Services Inc

Danny Bharwani; Chief Financial Officer; Consumer Portfolio Services Inc

Presentation

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Consumer Portfolio Services 2023 fourth-quarter operating results conference call. Today's call is being recorded. Before we begin, management has asked me to inform you that this conference call may contain forward. Any statements made during this call that are not statements of historical facts may be deemed wonderful statements regarding current or historical valuation of receivables because dependent on estimates of future So forward looking still all such forward-looking statements are subject to risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those. I refer you to the Company's annual report filed on March 15th. For further clarification Company assumes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, further events or other with us here is Mr. Charles Bradley, Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Danny Bonnie, Chief Financial. I'm Mr. Mike President and Chief Operating Officer of Consumer Portfolio. I will now turn the call over to.

Charles Bradley

Thank you and welcome everyone to our Fourth Quarter and Full Year Earnings Call. I'm thinking about this call and what I should say add the real thing was 23, probably in retrospect was what will loosely call a transitional year for us. And in terms of where we want to go with the company, somewhat of a neutral year and harkens back to, I think in late January of 23, when we were looking at our credit performance, we were somewhat surprised and or dismayed, if not shocked that the 22 vintages weren't performing as well as we thought they would. And at that point, we decided we needed to slow things down and figure out what was going on and so we did. So really, unfortunately, at some level we spent I mean, there's good news, bad news. Bad news is we spent most of 23 evaluating the 22 performance and figuring out what went wrong and how to make it better so that we could then move forward and it took some time. One of things we did immediately was we tightened the credit will improve the model, beefed up the collection team and kind of went after making at 22 pay-per-performance best as we possibly could. And so unfortunately, some of our we spent most of 23 waiting to see how 22 into it rather than trying to grow real fast in 23. And that really know how we were going to improve. So what we did find out as the year went on and actually just a first or second quarter as much as we were somewhat dismayed in our performance and how our credit was performing. We found out that almost everyone else industry was doing far far worse. And so that was a bit of an interesting sort of revelation that as much as we didn't like our paper, our paper was doing way better than almost everyone else is, and that is true today. So the question we get all the time is why why did that happen and why did we do better? So as much as it's kind of difficult at the moment to go through the whole thing, I'll just go through a couple of highlights that we determine probably are the cause of why 22 wasn't as good and 23 ended up being better or things we fixed in 23. One of the first things was somebody in our industry came up with a not so brilliant idea of guaranteeing backend from profit to all the dealerships being that we have in a long kind of forever around forever. We realized right away. That was kind of stupid. However, we looked at it in that light and turns out most people in the industry followed along that path. And eventually we came up with a much tighter scaled-back version of what we call the end profit program. And then that probably helped us one of the things that that program did is it boosted LTVs loan-to-values significantly when you're guaranteeing the profits of the year, obviously, it was good program in terms of the dealerships, the dealership low, making us money for sure, an amount of what contract they were writing. We were obviously very skeptical. And so we did it a little bit differently and didn't do it as dramatically as everyone else. And we certainly did it was slower than everyone else. And that turned out to be very significant in helping us do better in the home process of the 22 paper thing that happened is everybody started growing a lot of the rates, really low business is booming. The auction values were great and for some unknown reason a lot of our friends decided to stop fully verifying stipulations, things like proof of income, meaning like I don't know, they had a job things like where do they live, how long have they had a job and dealerships being wonderful folks sort of maybe tend to take advantage of deal of lenders who don't check things. One thing we've always done and we will continue to do no matter how much work it is. As we verify everything we make sure our customers have a job to make sure that they're living where they live. We do a full credit check and everything, and we do it verbally over the phone and for whatever reason, that tends to protect us dramatically in terms of some of the problems that happened in our industry. So if you look at those few things, we went much slower into the guarantee backend than everyone else. We did much more cautiously than everybody else. And we also continue to check all of the steps that you normally would have and some of our friendly competitors did not. And we also realize things weren't what we thought they would be much maybe quicker, but certainly very quickly. And so we were pulling back much faster than some other folks. So as a result of this, as you know, in the 30 years I've been with this company, we've never had a time where our Company stands out so much better than almost everyone else in terms of credit performance, in terms of how we run our models and manage our portfolio. So much as 23 was kind of a not the best year in terms of we want to grow and succeed and expand. And being able to say that we did it pretty much better than everyone else is kind of pretty cool way to say that 23 went and hopefully now that 22 is getting behind us, 23 performance is certainly much better. Some of the changes we made have been very good on. It looks like we're kind of ready to go again. So but looking at 23, that's the story of how we did at fourth quarter. It's sort of the end of when we're beginning to get things going again. So we'll see how it goes. I'll talk more about that and sort of what we think's going to happen next after Mike and Danny go through their pieces I'll turn it over to Mike to do the operations review.