Here's your 2024 guide to the Milwaukee-area beer gardens
The Milwaukee area actually has five seasons: Longgg winter, wet spring, way-too-short summer, stunning fall — and beer garden.
A couple local beer gardens have already made their season debut, some have their opening dates set and others still are working out their deets.
From the uber-popular (and already open) South Shore Terrace to The Traveling Beer Garden Tour, here's your 2024 beer gardens guide:
This story will be updated as more beer gardens announce their plans. If you have a Milwaukee-area beer garden that hasn't been added to the list yet, contact Hannah Kirby at [email protected].
Milwaukee County
Traveling Beer Garden Tour
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Traveling Beer Garden Tour includes eight Milwaukee County park stops from mid-May through the beginning of September, including a new one: Kops Park. This is the 11th season Milwaukee County Parks and Sprecher Brewing Co. have partnered to put it on.
"This unique tradition in our community brings people together, generates revenue for County operations, and fosters positive activity in our Milwaukee County Parks," Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley said in a statement.
Expect a rotating selection of Sprecher craft beer on tap, as well as options from City Lights, Lakefront and Eagle Park breweries. There will also be cider, gluten-free offerings and non-alcoholic beverages, including Sprecher soda, the beer gardens' website said. Food offerings will include brats, hot dogs, Bavarian pretzels, nachos and chips. Plus, root beer floats.
DATES AND LOCATIONS:
May 15-27: Greenfield Park, 2028 S. 124th St., West Allis
May 29-June 9: Froemming Park, 8801 S. 51st St., Franklin
June 12-23: Cooper Park, 8701 W. Chambers St., Milwaukee
June 26-July 7: Grant Park, 100 E. Hawthorne Ave., South Milwaukee
July 10-21: Kops Park, 3321 N. 86 St.
July 24-Aug. 4: McCarty Park, 8214 W. Cleveland Ave., West Allis
Aug. 7-18: Doctors Park, 1870 E. Fox Lane, Fox Point
Aug. 21-Sept. 2: Sheridan Park, 4800 S. Lake Drive, Cudahy
HOURS: 5 to 9 p.m. Monday through Friday and 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. Saturday, Sunday and holidays.
MORE INFO: travelingbeergardens.com
South Shore Terrace Kitchen and Beer Garden, Milwaukee
WHAT TO EXPECT: At the uber-popular South Shore Terrace Kitchen and Beer Garden, guests can expect views of Lake Michigan and the city's skyline, gas fire pits and lakefront seating, according to a news release.
The beer garden has 20 tap beer lines with an array of offerings, including from Miller, Leinenkugel's, Blue Moon Brewing Co., Terrapin Beer Co., Hop Valley Brewing Company and Cervecería Cuauhtémoc Moctezuma S.A. de C.V., per the beer garden's website. Other alcoholic drink options include Simply Spiked in a variety of flavors, hard cider, a michelada, a beer'mosa and "Park's Punch." Non-alcoholic beverage options include non-alcoholic Blue Moon, Sprecher root beer, gourmet sodas, Pepsi products, Bubly sparkling water and bottled water.
The food menu includes shareables such as hand-breaded Clock Shadow Creamery cheese curds, sidewinder fries and Milwaukee Pretzel Co. soft pretzels; sandwiches like the Buffalo & Bleu Burger and Milwaukee Melt; bratwurst and Polish sausage; salads; a Friday fish fry; and desserts. There's also a kids menu.
Proceeds from both the bar and kitchen support future park projects, according to the release.
LOCATION: 2900 South Shore Dr., Milwaukee
DATES AND HOURS: Opened for the season April 4. Its hours are 4 to 9 p.m. Wednesdays through Fridays, and 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. Saturdays, Sundays and holidays. The beer garden can be reserved for private events on Mondays and Tuesdays.
MORE INFO: southshoreterrace.com
Whitnall Beer Garden, Greendale
WHAT TO EXPECT: Whitnall Beer Garden will feature 24 craft beer handles with brews from several local breweries, according to a Milwaukee County Parks news release. There will again be food from Gift of Wings, including fish fry dinners Wednesdays and Fridays, and Taco Tuesdays. Pig roasts will be held June 9 and 16, July 7 and Aug. 18. There will be live music from local musicians Friday nights, Saturday afternoons and during each pig roast.
A ceremony and first pour will be held at 5 p.m. May 1 to celebrate the season opening. Following the conclusion of the ceremony, free beer and root beer will be served while supplies last, the release said.
LOCATION: 8831 N. Root River Parkway, Greendale
DATES AND HOURS: Opening for the season at 4 p.m. May 1, with a ceremony beginning at 5 p.m. Its hours will be 4 to 9 p.m. Mondays through Fridays, and 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. Saturdays, Sundays and holidays.
MORE INFO: whitnallbeergarden.com
Juneau Beer Garden, Milwaukee
WHAT TO EXPECT: Last year, the Juneau Beer Garden became one of the county's permanent, seasonal beer gardens after its success on the Traveling Beer Garden Tour. The beer garden will be back again this year, though not many details have been released yet.
DATES AND HOURS: To open in late June, tentatively.
LOCATION: Juneau Park, 900 N. Prospect Ave., Milwaukee
MORE INFO: juneaubeergarden.com
The Vine Humboldt, Milwaukee
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Vine Humboldt — located at a historic farmhouse in Bay View's Humboldt Park — features craft brews, hard sodas, cider and NA beverages, according to its website. The park is also home to the popular Chill on the Hill and Jazz at The Vine.
LOCATION: Humboldt Park, 3000 S. Howell Ave., Milwaukee
DATES AND HOURS: To open in late June, tentatively.
MORE INFO: thevinehumboldt.com.
Estabrook Beer Garden, Milwaukee
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Estabrook Beer Garden, modeled after Munich beer gardens, serves Hofbr?uhaus and local craft beers, wine, cider, hard seltzer, draft root beer and Pepsi products, according to its website. "Beer garden basics" such as bratwurst, hot dogs and giant fresh-baked pretzels are also available. Note: The beer garden is cashless.
The beer garden's opening weekend will be full of festivities.
On April 26, live music from Twin Lakes Trio starts at 5:30 p.m. The beer garden's grand opening will be at 6 p.m. with a HB Original Lager keg tapping. There will be free beer until 7 p.m. At 6:30 p.m. registration opens for the Masskrugstemmen (steinholding contest), which will be held at 7:30 p.m.
On April 27, the beer garden opens at 11 a.m. Bigger Boat will be performing at noon. There will be a keg tapping of Third Space Happy Place at 1 p.m. and attendees can enter to win free beer for a year from Third Space. The drawing will take place at 3:30 p.m. A bratwurst-eating team relay will be at 3 p.m. Registration for that starts at 2 p.m., and is limited to eight four-person teams. Live music from Squeezettes! will start at 4 p.m. Masskrugstemmen registration opens at 5 p.m., with the contest starting at 6 p.m.
On April 28, the beer garden opens at 11 a.m. There will be $10 Maibock liters all day. Erich von Klassen will be performing at 11:30 a.m. There will be a keg tapping of 2024 Hofbr?u Maibock Anstich at noon. Masskrugstemmen registration opens at 2 p.m. with the contest beginning at 3 p.m.
Park amenities include trails, playgrounds, a disc golf course, a dog park, soccer fields and a riverwalk.
LOCATION: 4600 Estabrook Drive, Milwaukee
DATES AND HOURS: The season grand opening is scheduled for April 26. After opening weekend, the beer garden will open at noon daily, weather permitting. With Estabrook Park closing at 10 p.m., last call for the beer garden will be at 9 p.m.
MORE INFO: estabrookbeergarden.com
Hubbard Park Beer Garden, Shorewood
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Hubbard Park Beer Garden, which is open year-round, serves German and domestic craft beers, wine, specialty drinks and soft drinks. Food options include Usinger's sausages, a giant pretzel and a Friday fish fry. Private cabanas are available to rent and feature beer garden offerings, the Friday fish fry and special packages. The Lodge offers fish fry seating as well, plus a Sunday lumberjack buffet brunch.
LOCATION: 3565 N. Morris Ave., Shorewood
DATES AND HOURS: Open year-round. Summer hours are 3 to 10 p.m. Mondays through Thursdays, noon to 10 p.m. Fridays and Saturdays, and noon to 9 p.m. Sundays.
MORE INFO: hubbardparkbeergarden.com
The Beer Garden in Deer District, Milwaukee
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Beer Garden, located in Deer District,features a 40-foot screen to watch sporting events, like Bucks playoff games. The Tap Room features domestic and craft beers, seltzers, ciders and more, per its website. Food can be ordered from The MECCA Sports Bar & Grill and The Cluckery.
The Beer Garden will be hosting a "Summer Concert Series," presented by Deer District BID 53. All concerts are free and open to the public. They take place from 6-9 p.m., unless otherwise noted. Here's the schedule:
May 31 - Classic Alice
June 7 - Latin Swing Factor
June 14 - Wire & Nail
June 21- Barbara Stephan Peter Mac Duo
June 28 - Bruce Humphries and The Rockabilly Rebels
July 28 - Shattered: A Rolling Stones Tribute (1 p.m.)
Aug. 2 - Soul Patrol
Aug. 16 - Chris Haise Duo
Aug. 23 - Joe Wray
Aug. 30 - Cigarette Break
Sept. 6 - Listening Party (4 p.m.)
Sept. 13 - Mixtape
Sept. 20 - Xeno & Joe
Sept. 27 - Deep Pockets
HOURS: When the beer garden officially opens for the season May 3, its hours will be 3 to 9 p.m. Thursdays and Fridays, noon to 9 p.m. Saturdays, and noon to 6 p.m. Sundays. It's also open on Fiserv Forum event days and for special events.
LOCATION: 1133 N. King Drive, Milwaukee
MORE INFO: thebeergardenmke.com
Kegel's Inn Beer Garden, West Allis
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Kegel's Inn Beer Garden, open year-round, features authentic German food, live music and outdoor seating. Most of that seating is self-serve, but some tables can be reserved at exploretock.com/kegelsinn.
Also worth noting, Kegel's is celebrating its 100th anniversary with more than 100 events (which can be found here) and a line up of new Kegel Brau prohibition-themed beer releases, according to owner Julian Kegel.
LOCATION: 5901 W. National Ave., West Allis
DATES AND HOURS: Open year-round. 4 to 8 p.m. Tuesdays through Thursdays, and 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. Fridays and 4 to 8 p.m. Saturdays.
MORE INFO: kegelsinn.com/milwaukee-kegel-s-inn-beer-garden
War Memorial Beer Garden, Milwaukee
WHAT TO EXPECT: The War Memorial Beer Garden, operated by Kegel's Inn, will have a walk-up shipping container bar. It'll serve up German beers, Nitro Old Fashioneds, Nitro Cold Brew Coffee, gluten-free options, soft drinks and water, according to its website. Food offerings will include appetizers, like huge pretzels; loaded brats; and desserts. Beer garden tables are first-come, first-served, but there is also a lot of green space. On-site parking costs $8 per vehicle, and parking stubs can be redeemed for one free half-liter beer at the beer truck. Dogs are welcome. There will also be a variety of live music from 1 to 4 p.m. Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. Proceeds benefit the War Memorial Center.
LOCATION: The War Memorial Center, adjacent to the Milwaukee Art Museum, is at 750 N. Lincoln Memorial Drive. The beer garden will be held in the center's north parking lot.
DATES AND HOURS: Opening for the season on May 24. Its hours are 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. Tuesdays through Sundays. While typically closed on Mondays, the beer garden will be open on Memorial Day from 11 a.m. to 8 p.m.
MORE INFO: warmemorialbeergarden.com
Franklin Beer Garden at Croatian Park, Franklin
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Franklin Beer Garden at Croatian Park offers a beer selection featuring Lakefront Brewery products and Croatian imports. There's also a full-bar with wine, mixed drinks, Croatian Cordials, hard seltzer and nonalcoholic beverages. Every week, the beer garden hosts "the Happiest of Happy Hours" from 5 to 6 p.m. Local food vendor American European Foods will be serving up a selection of grilled items, including Croatian ?evap?i?i, a twist on classic nachos and more. There will also be a rotation of food trucks, including Rose Mob, Pi?a Mexican Eats, and Big City BBQ (dates listed here). The beer garden, located on 30 acres, offers covered and uncovered tables, and is dog-friendly. There's a kids' playground area, bocce ball courts, live music and more. It’s also expected to have its pavilion construction project completed at the end of 2024 for "the ultimate outdoor Beer Garden experience," according to organizers.
LOCATION: 9100 S. 76th St., Franklin
DATES AND HOURS: 5 to 10 p.m. Thursdays from May 16 through September. Visit FranklinBeerGarden.com, or the beer garden's Facebook page, facebook.com/FranklinBeerGarden, for the live music and food truck schedule.
MORE INFO: FranklinBeerGarden.com
The Third Ward Beer Garden, Milwaukee
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Third Ward Beer Garden will feature a seasonal menu of beer, wine and ready-to-drink cocktails. Expect live music Thursdays through Sundays. There will also be games like cornhole and outdoor Jenga.
The beer garden's grand opening will be at 5 p.m. April 19 with the tapping of its first keg of the season — Explorium Brewpub's Copper Lager, which will be free until the keg runs out.
LOCATION: Catalano Square Park, 147 N. Broadway
DATES AND HOURS: Opening for the season at 5 p.m. April 19. Its hours are 3 to 9 p.m. Wednesdays through Fridays, noon to 9 p.m. Saturdays and noon to 6 p.m. Sundays.
MORE INFO: thirdwardbeergarden.com.
The Landing at Hoyt Park, Wauwatosa
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Landing at Hoyt Park's beer garden features draft and packaged beer options; red, white and sparkling wine; and fountain drinks. Food offerings include pizza, pretzels, brats, popcorn and more. Here's a calendar of when food trucks, trivia and live music will also be on site.
LOCATION: 1800 N. Swan Blvd., Wauwatosa
DATES AND HOURS: Scheduled to open May 15.
MORE INFO: friendsofhoytpark.org/the-landing
Pop-up Beer Gardens at Drexel Town Square, Oak Creek
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Pop-up Beer Gardens at Oak Creek's Drexel Town Square will feature a variety of craft brews, food, theme nights, live music, games and kids activities, according to its webpage. An Oak Creek Idol Showcase will take place during the pop-ups as well (Here's when that's happening and how it'll work). New this year: A beer Olympics competition, a 50's sock hop night, a country night and more.
Live music runs from 4:30 to 8:30 p.m., with the exception of June 14, when it goes from 5:30 to 8:30 p.m. Here's the schedule:
June 13: Six Pack Sammy
June 14: Carol and the DV'8s
June 15: Ten Feet Tall
July 11: The Grimm Brothers
July 12: Conniption
July 13: Brett and the Dandy's
Aug. 15: Eric Diamond and Tony Rocker
Aug. 16: Road Crew
Aug. 17: Music-Palooza
LOCATION: Drexel Town Square, 361 W. Town Square Way, Oak Creek
DATES AND HOURS: 4 to 9 p.m. June 13 and 14, and 3 to 9 p.m. June 15; 4 to 9 p.m. July 11 and 12, and 3 to 9 p.m. July 13; and 4 to 9 p.m. Aug. 15 and 16, and 3 to 9 p.m. Aug. 17.
MORE INFO: oakcreekwi.gov/visitor/events/beer-gardens
1840 Brewing Company's Beer Garden Road Show at Liberty Heights Park, Milwaukee
WHAT TO EXPECT: Bay View-based 1840 Brewing Company, an urban farmhouse brewery, is presenting The Beer Garden Road Show at Liberty Heights Park, according to its Facebook page. Expect beer, Sprecher sodas and water. While there is some picnic table seating, attendees can also bring their own chairs or picnic blankets. Entertainment will include live music and yard games with the Liberty Heights Park Neighborhood Association.
LOCATION: Liberty Heights Park, 1530 S. 62nd St., Milwaukee.
DATES AND HOURS: 4 to 8 p.m. June 29 and Aug. 23.
MORE INFO: facebook.com/1840brewing/events
The Tap Yard, Milwaukee
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Tap Yard - Milwaukee, located along the Milwaukee River, features 18 craft drafts, wine, hard seltzers and canned cocktails, according to its Facebook. For food, there's Pop's Kettle Corn, Carrie’s Crispies, Heavenly Roasted Nuts, Cranky Al's pizza and Milwaukee Bavarian beast pretzels with beer cheese. Games include giant Jenga, big Connect Four, bags and more. On select days, the beer garden hosts events, like food trucks, trivia, live music, taco fest, grilled cheese fest, paint nights, music bingo and more. This is a dog-friendly location, however, they must be on 6-foot leashes.
LOCATION: Schlitz Park, 1555 N. River Center Drive, Milwaukee
DATES AND HOURS: The grand opening for the season is on May 1. Its hours are 4 to 9 p.m. Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays; 1 to 8 p.m. Saturdays; and 1 to 7 p.m. Sundays.
MORE INFO: facebook.com/thetapyardmilwaukee or thetapyards.com.
Waukesha County
Raised Grain Brewing Co. & Waukesha County Parks’ Pop-Up Beer Gardens
WHAT TO EXPECT: Raised Grain Brewing Co. and Waukesha County Parks are partnering for Pop-Up Beer Gardens once again, according to the brewing company's website. The pop-ups will feature a lineup of beers, including Naked Threesome IPA, Summer Vice Hefeweizen, Quick Release Amber Lager and some rotating favorites. Gluten-removed Diamond Hard Seltzer will also be available in multiple flavors. Local food trucks, such as Tramper's Oak Fired Pizza, will be at the beer gardens as well.
Attendees can expect yard games, music, family attractions and other events, the website said. Some parks have swimming access and playgrounds. The Horwitz-DeRemer Planetarium in Retzer’s Environmental Learning Center will have laser light music shows each night of the final weekend
Note: A daily park entrance permit or annual park membership is required for all vehicles entering a fee-based park. Guests can purchase permits online at www.waukeshacounty.gov/parkentry. No entry fee is required at Retzer Nature Center.
DATES, LOCATIONS AND HOURS:
May 24-26: Fox River Park, W264 S4500, River Road, Waukesha
May 31-June 1: Mukwonago Park, S100 W31900, County Highway LO, Mukwonago
June 7-8: Muskego Park, S83 W20370, Janesville Road, Muskego
June 21-22: Naga-Waukee Park, 651 WI-83, Hartland
July 5-6: Nashotah Park, W330 N5113, County Trunk Highway C, Nashotah
Aug. 23-24: Retzer Nature Center, S14 W28167 Madison St., Waukesha
Open 4 to 9 p.m. Fridays and 3 to 9 p.m. Saturdays. Opening weekend at Fox River Park will also have Sunday hours, which will be 3 to 9 p.m.
MORE INFO: waukeshacounty.gov/popupbeergardens
The Elm Grove Beer Garden presented by Third Space Brewing, Elm Grove
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Elm Grove Beer Garden, presented by Third Space Brewing, will kick off the season serving Happy Place, Smile, Heavenly Haze, Frog Weiss, Pretty Good, Pils, Upward Spiral and Lavender Lemonade. There will also be rotating seasonal and specialty options. Food trucks will be on-site most Fridays and Saturdays. Expect trivia on Thursdays from 6 to 8 p.m., and live music from 6 to 8 p.m. every Friday and Saturday. There will also be a Sunday volleyball league (registration required).
LOCATION: Elm Grove Village Park, 13600 Juneau Blvd., Elm Grove
DATES AND HOURS: The beer garden's opening day is May 10. Its hours are 5 to 9 p.m. Thursdays, 4 to 9 p.m. Fridays, 3 to 9 p.m. Saturdays and 2 to 7 p.m. Sundays.
MORE INFO: thirdspacebrewing.com/elmgrovebeergarden
Depot Beer Garden at Old Falls Village Park, Menomonee Falls
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Menomonee Falls Historical Society's Depot Beer Garden at Old Falls Village Park features a rotation of six craft beers on tap, canned classic beers, ciders, seltzers, soda and water. The last beer pour of a keg wins a coveted Keg Killer T-shirt. The Depot Grill will be serving up hot dogs, burgers, pizza, pretzels, nachos and homemade meats from Wisconsin Meats. There will also be food trucks for special events. Entertainment includes nightly live music, a large selection of board games and corn hole. Special events on select dates include the Historical Society's Civil War Encampment, a classic car show and trivia. When events aren't taking place, tours of historic buildings will be offered. The beer garden is dog friendly.
LOCATION: Menomonee Falls' Old Falls Village, N96W15791 County Line Road
DATES AND HOURS: Open most Saturdays, and select Fridays and Sundays for special events from May 18 through Sept. 28. The beer garden's hours are typically 3 to 9 p.m. But, special events oftentimes mean special hours. So, be sure to check here for the full schedule of dates, hours and events. The Depot Grill serves up food from 4 to 8 p.m.
MORE INFO: oldfallsvillage.com/depot-beer-garden-event, facebook.com/OldFallsVillage or instagram.com/mfhsoldfallsvillage.
The Tap Yard, Waukesha
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Tap Yard - Waukesha features 25 craft drafts, wine, hard seltzers and canned cocktails, according to its Facebook. For food, there's Pop's Kettle Corn, Carrie’s Crispies and Heavenly Roasted Nuts. On select days, the beer garden hosts events, like food trucks, trivia, live music, taco fest, grilled cheese fest, paint nights, music bingo and more. This is a dog-friendly location, however, they must be on 6-foot leashes.
LOCATION: 1927 E. Sunset Drive, Waukesha
DATES AND HOURS: The grand opening for the season is on May 1.
MORE INFO: facebook.com/thetapyardwaukesha or thetapyards.com.
The Tap Yard, Brookfield
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Tap Yard - Brookfield features 25 craft drafts, wine, hard seltzers and canned cocktails, according to its Facebook. For food, there's Pop's Kettle Corn, Carrie’s Crispies and Heavenly Roasted Nuts. On select days, the beer garden hosts events, like food trucks, trivia, live music, taco fest, grilled cheese fest, paint nights, music bingo and more. This is a dog-friendly location, however, they must be on 6-foot leashes.
LOCATION: 2925 N. Barker Road., Brookfield
DATES AND HOURS: From May 1 through Sept. 29, the beer garden's hours are 4 to 9 p.m. Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays; noon to 9 p.m. Saturdays; and noon to 7 p.m. Sundays.
MORE INFO: facebook.com/thetapyardbrookfield or thetapyards.com.
The Tap Yard, Menomonee Falls
WHAT TO EXPECT: The Tap Yard - Menomonee Falls features 12 tap beer lines, a new concession menu and a new grilled cheese concept called Melt & Company, according to its Facebook. On select days, the beer garden hosts events. This is a dog-friendly location, however, they must be on 6-foot leashes.
LOCATION: W220N7884 Town Line Rd., Menomonee Falls
DATES AND HOURS: From May 1 through Sept. 29, the beer garden's hours are 4 to 9 p.m. Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays; noon to 9 p.m. Saturdays; and noon to 7 p.m. Sundays.
MORE INFO: facebook.com/thetapyardmenomoneefalls or thetapyards.com
Ozaukee County
the baaree at the cheel, Thiensville
WHAT TO EXPECT: the baaree at the cheel combines aspects of a traditional German beer garden with elements of a community garden. According to its website, drink offerings include craft cocktails, draughts, wine, NA beverages and more. The food menu lists handhelds, including Wagyu beef sliders, hot chicken sliders and barbacoa tacos; entrees, such as the cheel wings and loaded nachos; salads, like the tea leaf salad; and more.
Per the beer garden's Facebook page, there will be trivia Thursdays from 6 to 8 p.m.; bingo Sundays from noon to 3 p.m.; two bands playing on Saturdays starting at 3 p.m.; and happy hour from 4 to 6 p.m. Tuesdays through Fridays, and noon to 3 p.m. Saturdays and Sundays.
LOCATION: Located by the cheel, 105 S. Main St., Thiensville
DATES AND HOURS: 4 p.m. to close Tuesdays through Fridays; and noon to close Saturdays and Sundays.
MORE INFO: thebaaree.com/ or facebook.com/thebaaree
This article originally appeared on Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: 2024 Milwaukee-area beer gardens guide: South Shore, Estabrook, more